he points out and we've learned from iraq and afghanistan, afghanistan ten years later, we're still stuck there spending what, $2 billion a week. >> that's true. that's true. you know if you're looking for reasons you don't want to go in, all sorts of things that go wrong, all these hobb goblins you're going to find them and persuade yourself. the important thing of what's going on right now is in "the situation room" there at the white house and in the counsels with the president, it's clear that a consensus has developed that is basically let's go slow, it's only go in if we have to. let's be very prudent and even though jay carney, new press secretary, proceeding with great haste, that is not the appearance on the outside, or course. >> because the danger, the delicate tight rope they're walking, they want to scare gadhafi but at the same time, they don't necessarily want to take the actual action. they want to send a message, you're in trouble, you'd better get out of there but at the same time don't want to necessarily back it up with deeds.